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egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months, perhaps less than a month after he had secret service protection and entourage also we have seen that he's pumping gas, learning how to pump gas i guess or we'll assume he knew how to pump gas, but we've had a number of pictures of him at disney land on the roller coaster with his boys. >> look -- >> who -- sometimes people can lose a presidential election and continue to be a really phenomenal force in their party and in politics. i don't think this is going to be the case with mitt romney. he lost this election as you sa
egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months,...
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egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a sunday night showing of the "twilight" move. police say his mother called authorities, afraid that her son had bought two rifles similar to the ones use in the colorado theater shooting. police say lammers admitted to that plan. >>> more on the developing situation in the middle east. could there be a ceasefire in the works, one that would include a guarantee from i that it would l not resume assassinations of high-ranking palestinian leaders and a ceasing of rockets from gaza? earlier on msnbc, the chief spokesman for prime minister netanyahu was skeptical of a truce.
egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a...
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egypt within recent days aligning itself with palestinians, but still leading the push to try to end the fighting. reports say an israeli envoy is in cairo for talks to arrange for a truce, but for now, a break through looks distant. the sound now of what is coming. >> people running for their lives, looking for cover. as gaza militants launch dozens of rockets targeting israel's heartland. and just a flavor now of what's been happening night and day, three rockets aimed at tel aviv, the commercial capital of the jewish state. this was not that long ago, coming to the rescue, israel's iron dome missile defense system shooting down both those rockets before they could hit anything. israel also keeping up the pressure, pounding militant targets in gaza. these pictures show a building used by hamas and the sites of a war plane and being wiped out completely by a direct hit. meanwhile, president obama doing some kind of a balancing act now, warning israel about the dangers of expanding its air assault into a ground war, while also defending israel's right to defend itself. his comments d
egypt within recent days aligning itself with palestinians, but still leading the push to try to end the fighting. reports say an israeli envoy is in cairo for talks to arrange for a truce, but for now, a break through looks distant. the sound now of what is coming. >> people running for their lives, looking for cover. as gaza militants launch dozens of rockets targeting israel's heartland. and just a flavor now of what's been happening night and day, three rockets aimed at tel aviv, the...
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, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we are. gaza is still very much a war zone atmosphere. although, as you mentioned, it is 9:00 local time so the cease-fire is officially in effect and hearing drones and up to the last minute as you noted but well before that, several minutes before that, a series of explosions as well as a series of rockets coming out of gaza in to southern israel and the question is whether it sticks for the rest of the night. >> obviously, everyone is watching very closely, certainly, in that region and around the world. the people living with
, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we...
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egypt loses if there's an escalation. you can argue jordan loses because there's more public pressure on the king. the palestinian authority, there will be more pressure and the winners will be hezbollah, supplying missiles to hamas, iran supplying missiles to hamas. everybody has an interest in a cease-fire and yet there is an escalation that can get out of hand. >> the arab spring led to popular uprisings in many cases changing the leadership in those countries. how do you think the arab spring affected the calculation here and what's taking place with this conflict at this time. >> hugely. think about 2008. there was a major gaza war on larger scale than this one. 1400 palestinians were killed in that three weeks of war. what happened? yes, there was public opinion pressure in the arab world. it really didn't show up in terms of government policies. mubarak, critical of israel was actually coordinating with them because he didn't want to see hamas really succeed. that's true of several other arab leaders. right now, no
egypt loses if there's an escalation. you can argue jordan loses because there's more public pressure on the king. the palestinian authority, there will be more pressure and the winners will be hezbollah, supplying missiles to hamas, iran supplying missiles to hamas. everybody has an interest in a cease-fire and yet there is an escalation that can get out of hand. >> the arab spring led to popular uprisings in many cases changing the leadership in those countries. how do you think the...
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can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters. israeli police confirm that an explosive device detonated but say it was not a suicide attack. the white house is calling the attack against israeli civilians outrage o outrageous. the united kingdom is condemning the, quote, shocking violence. the eight-day conflict between israel and hamas has claimed the lives of more than 130 palestinians and five israelis. despite hopes of a ceasefire, tuesday ended as the conflict's deadliest day. secretary clinton who rushed to the region to try to prevent an escalation of the conflict is in cairo to meet with egy
can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters....
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we begin with the protests in egypt. over night protesters clashed with security forces. this was the scene in dammanhour north of cry row. reza sayah joining us. when can we expect the big one to start? >> reporter: the big one starts tuesday. they're calling for a 1 million main protest on tuesday. that's going to repeat calling for opponents of mr. morsi. but even today there are pro-morsi demonstrated takes place. they're going to be take place in cities outside of cairo. in some of these cities you have anti-morsi protesters as well. we've seen clashes in the early morning hours. they're going to attack the offices of the muslim brotherhood, supporters of the muslim brotherhood. things getting ugly there. the focal point of these anti-government protests remain here in ta rears square. i'm going to step aside to give you a live like look of what tahrir square looks like. most of them peaceful but we're still getting clashes and protests. right below they have set fire to an avis rental car center. you heard what sounded like a stun grenade. >> what you see here, they
we begin with the protests in egypt. over night protesters clashed with security forces. this was the scene in dammanhour north of cry row. reza sayah joining us. when can we expect the big one to start? >> reporter: the big one starts tuesday. they're calling for a 1 million main protest on tuesday. that's going to repeat calling for opponents of mr. morsi. but even today there are pro-morsi demonstrated takes place. they're going to be take place in cities outside of cairo. in some of...
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on the other hand, the president of egypt has made clear he doesn't want to throw over the israel/egypt peace agreement. how far can he go in supporting hamas without getting rid of that agreement or undermining it in a fundamental way? i expect him to go quite far. >> do you think the election affected the timing of this. did hamas step up its attacks to test the obama administration? did netanyahu act waiting for romney to be elected and not seeing that. >> it's hard to know. i can't get quite in their heads. in that part of the world they're aware of the american political calendar, as everyone is, and there is a sort of freezing of decision making in this period leading up to an american election. let's face it, a president romney would have been a very different approach. >> and probably preferred by netanyahu. >> it's seen that way. paezble to that hamas is testing -- had waited to test until now. the truth is that the arab spring has many, many positive qualities for us in the west. the possibility that the people in that part of the world will be connected with their leadership.
on the other hand, the president of egypt has made clear he doesn't want to throw over the israel/egypt peace agreement. how far can he go in supporting hamas without getting rid of that agreement or undermining it in a fundamental way? i expect him to go quite far. >> do you think the election affected the timing of this. did hamas step up its attacks to test the obama administration? did netanyahu act waiting for romney to be elected and not seeing that. >> it's hard to know. i...
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he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of the united states in this crisis, you are always told oh, they're on the phone. so it is phone diplomacy for the united states, and that's about all. >> reporter: ann marie slaughter, do you agree with that? should the u.s. be doing more here? >> well, at this point, it's not really clear what the u.s. can be doing because although the egyptians and the turks and the qataris all have a big incentive to see a cease-fire that lasts, and i think the u.s. does, too. none of us can want it more than the israeli and the palestinians do. you can't create a settlement unless the principles act
he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of...
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egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic is that when they are higher grade, longer range rockets being smuggled in in the last couple years, you don't have an egyptian partner like mubarak who is going to try to shut down those tunnels. israel has some real concerns and hamas has access to much better weaponry. >> it does. that also gets back to part of the purpose of what the israelis are doing. a, the israelis going after targets designed to destroy this capability that hamas has. so when you talk about collateral damage, it's because a lot of the rockets are put in highly populated areas.
egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic...
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egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohammed morsi has influence wih hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change much of anything, and now the president who didn't want to get involved for a while or found that it was kind of useless not going anyplace is involved by sending dramatically the secretary of state. >> at some point, do you see the recognition of some sort of hamas? >> no, but i really have to disagree with my friend fuad. i don't think it's right to say barack obama is not pulled by the middle east and isn't fully committed to the same vision of peace between the israelis and the palestinians that bill clinton and george w. bush were. i think he has been
egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohammed morsi has influence wih hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to...
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a bloody offensive seize key regional player egypt cutting off its diplomatic ties with israel and it's speculation that the flow of islamic fighters could soon head into gaza. and rising up against austerity millions of europeans sign up for block wide action against cuts with mass protests provoking the very heavy arm of the little. live from our new center here in moscow this is r.t. with international news and comment twenty four hours a day israel has launched a deadly military offensive against gaza with fighter jets and warships attacking the occupied territory the operation began with the airstrike assassination of the military leader of hamas the palestinian group pledged to open the gates of hell in return ation well for more let's now cross live to tom barton he's in tel aviv so tom what can you tell us at this stage. well the situation down on the south in the south of israel and also in gaza continues to escalate the moment israeli jets are still drawing sites throughout gaza twenty sites specifically mentioned by israeli defense sources they say they want to destroy terror
a bloody offensive seize key regional player egypt cutting off its diplomatic ties with israel and it's speculation that the flow of islamic fighters could soon head into gaza. and rising up against austerity millions of europeans sign up for block wide action against cuts with mass protests provoking the very heavy arm of the little. live from our new center here in moscow this is r.t. with international news and comment twenty four hours a day israel has launched a deadly military offensive...
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secretary of state hillary clinton, and egypt's foreign minister at a press conference in egypt. >> in the days ahead, the united states will work with partners across the region to consolidate this progress, improve conditions for the people of gaza, provide security for the people of israel. ultimately, every step must move us toward a comprehensive peace, for all the people of the region. >> the leader of hamas held his own press conference in cairo today, during which he said that while his side agrees to the cease-fire, his fighters have, quote, their hands on the trigger. in jerusalem, the israeli prime minister, benjamin net ya yan hew, also spoke about the cease-fire agreement. look at this. "prime minister benjamin netanyahu this evening spoke with u.s. president barack obama and acceded to his recommendation to give the egyptian cease-fire proposal a chance." he acceded to what president obama wanted. in other words, this is the american's idea, not mine, but i'm going to go along with it, because they're advising me i ought. it's very specific language, highlighting how cent
secretary of state hillary clinton, and egypt's foreign minister at a press conference in egypt. >> in the days ahead, the united states will work with partners across the region to consolidate this progress, improve conditions for the people of gaza, provide security for the people of israel. ultimately, every step must move us toward a comprehensive peace, for all the people of the region. >> the leader of hamas held his own press conference in cairo today, during which he said...
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it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything to do with benghazi. then why send her out to all the talk shows if she is going to be completely divorced from it? what were -- none of this make sense. believe me, when you have a breaking news event, you put the person who is most responsible and most knowledgeable on tv. it notice that none of the men stuck up for her. where is clapper? donilon? they let her, let her blame the video and they ruined her reputation. it blame the men. >> bob: they hung her out to try because nobody else would do it. hillary clinton wouldn't do it after colin powell's expe
it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything...
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it's currently negotiated in egypt right now with egypt continuing. the next phase is going to be whether or not the various restrictions on movements across the border. the israelis have said they will consider that. not entirely. # this is very much a first step at this point in time. >> thanks so much. fred, what's the situation there right now? >> reporter: well, the people here are also quite happy that there's no many rockets raining down on them. what you're not going to be seeing here on the israeli side is celebration. that's because people believe that hamas will regroup and fire rockets at israel again. here is what some people told me today. after a week long military operation and rocket barrages fired from gaza you were they're trying to get back to normal. in the town that suffered through so many air raid alarms this is the first time he can take his kid shopping without fear. >> you feel like you're back to life. >> reporter: you won't see people celebrating the cease-fire here. many saying it's did achieve the main objective of stopp
it's currently negotiated in egypt right now with egypt continuing. the next phase is going to be whether or not the various restrictions on movements across the border. the israelis have said they will consider that. not entirely. # this is very much a first step at this point in time. >> thanks so much. fred, what's the situation there right now? >> reporter: well, the people here are also quite happy that there's no many rockets raining down on them. what you're not going to be...
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egypt then and now took the lead in negotiating. the circumstances, though, are quite dramatically different in a geopolitical sense now. israel wants to stop the rocketing. clearly a desirable objective from their standpoint. and they want to make it to try to deter future action by making this punishment severe but what they don't want to do is lose egypt. a high strategic value to israel is its peace treaties with israel and jordan and -- >> very difficult for president morsi. >> very difficult. >> he's in a very, very difficult position. he's obviously trying to not alienate the americans and the israelis, but at the same time, he's very aware of a lot of rising anger amongst the arab community about what is going on there. >> that's right. every leader in this conflict and in this region faces competing pressures. for morsi, it is just the ones you described. they are the muslim brotherhood. hamas is an offshoot. mubarak opposed and severely contained the muslim brotherhood. morsi is now part of them or they are part of their e
egypt then and now took the lead in negotiating. the circumstances, though, are quite dramatically different in a geopolitical sense now. israel wants to stop the rocketing. clearly a desirable objective from their standpoint. and they want to make it to try to deter future action by making this punishment severe but what they don't want to do is lose egypt. a high strategic value to israel is its peace treaties with israel and jordan and -- >> very difficult for president morsi. >>...
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egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks in this country suspected that he would. >> yeah. and you can bet that the white house is watching that especially closely. i mean the last few days as we just said the president spoke repeatedly with president morsi. it seemed like they were having the start of a good relationship that led to a cease-fire in gaza. that is a good thing from the point of view of the united states. and then the timing of this new announcement is certainly interesting and perhaps questionable because after developing that relationship after getting some international kudos for what he did, he made this move.
egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks...
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that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking hands with the prime minister of israel and sealing this peace treaty between these countries, this president of egypt, the handshake was in march of 1979. two and a half years later, he was assassinated. how did he come to be assassinated? it came from this guy. this guy right now is in prison in the united states in a federal prison complex in north carolina thanks to his role in the first bombing of the world trade center back in the '90s. after he called for the assassination, who made the peace deal with
that's egypt. that's the egyptian border right up next to this tiny strip of land where the fighting is happening in gaza. that's why part of why this was such a big deal. egypt and israel shaking hands. thank you jimmy carter. the peace treaty between this important country, the nation of israel. but jimmy carter, it turns out, is not only the only live american historical connection to this critically-important relationship that you see diagrammed there. the president of egypt who is shaking...
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he is the one that was letting these rockets to go egypt and into gaza. he was giving a state visit by president morsi two months ago when she should have been indicted because he is indicted for genocide in darfur. everybody looks the other way. >> there is a big picture developments. one of them is influence of the muslim brotherhood. i think hamas wants to get everybody's attention. we want to speak on behalf of the islamic radicals in this country --. >> greta: if iran's supply they could be cut off. >> not only is that not happening but iran apparently continues toward a nuclear capability. when that happens, saudi arabia is going to have a nuclear capability. every country in the gulf area is going to be thinking about developing one. situation is going to be child's play compared to what it will be like then. i have more good news... it's thanksgiving. >> greta: hamas publicly executing six people. one was tied to the back of motorcycle and dragged through the streets. meanwhile, people are taking pictures. late tonight, bombs on both sides of bord
he is the one that was letting these rockets to go egypt and into gaza. he was giving a state visit by president morsi two months ago when she should have been indicted because he is indicted for genocide in darfur. everybody looks the other way. >> there is a big picture developments. one of them is influence of the muslim brotherhood. i think hamas wants to get everybody's attention. we want to speak on behalf of the islamic radicals in this country --. >> greta: if iran's supply...
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there's been a peace treaty between israel and egypt. now the nooyi egyptian leader, he's muslim brotherhood. guest what, his cousins are muslim brotherhood hamas. he has a very narrow line to walk. on the one hand if he looks like he's supporting the muslim brotherhood, hamas going up against israel he has to face the wrath of the united states and the pocketbook of the united states. if he doesn't look like he's supporting them he has his own islamist factions inside egypt who will say who needs i we could have had hosni mubarak for this type of reaction. martha: how is this going to play out? >> it remains to be seen. the israelis have gone through full mobilization, they are ready to om it's a costly thing in time and material and money, so for them to do this on a bluff, that is not happening. but they have to also look, this is not just urban combat, gaza has been hollowed out underneath. there are tunnels all over the place between buildings, so as a conventional force advances the bad guys drop down, run through the tunnels and c
there's been a peace treaty between israel and egypt. now the nooyi egyptian leader, he's muslim brotherhood. guest what, his cousins are muslim brotherhood hamas. he has a very narrow line to walk. on the one hand if he looks like he's supporting the muslim brotherhood, hamas going up against israel he has to face the wrath of the united states and the pocketbook of the united states. if he doesn't look like he's supporting them he has his own islamist factions inside egypt who will say who...
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your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fuad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the discussions were handled through the intelligence agencies here within the egyptian government. now we see the intelligence agencies talking to the israeli side where they have long-standing contacts and the office of the president, president muhammed morsi of the muslim brotherhood who of course is a long-time fellow islamist ideological ally of hamas, handling the other side. so there are all these talks within the egyptian government to parallel the talks between hamas and israel. what we're seeing the egyptian government begin to do which is i think really ver
your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fuad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the...
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aid to egypt. >> egypt, watch you do and how you do it. teetering with the congress to have aid cut off if you incite violence between israelis and palestinians. >> $1 billion of u.s. aid can focus the mind of morsi who today accuse israel of aggression. raising questions if he can be the broker that former president hosni mubarak was. >> shannon: ed henry at the white house. thank you, ed. get insight on the potential cease-fire agreement, michael orrin. thank you for being with us today. i want to ask about the players in the negotiations now. start with hamas hamas. reuters is saying they have put things on the table. israel has yet to respond to what they proposed. is there anything you can tell us about that? >> hamas is saying that. i wouldn't take hamas as a credible source. listen, there is no secret formula here. it's simple. hamas fired 100 rockets in the last week. in course of 2012, 700 rockets. these people live in constant fear. they have to stop. we have to create situation that terror quist not decide every month or week to
aid to egypt. >> egypt, watch you do and how you do it. teetering with the congress to have aid cut off if you incite violence between israelis and palestinians. >> $1 billion of u.s. aid can focus the mind of morsi who today accuse israel of aggression. raising questions if he can be the broker that former president hosni mubarak was. >> shannon: ed henry at the white house. thank you, ed. get insight on the potential cease-fire agreement, michael orrin. thank you for being...
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>> iran is competing with egypt. they want to win. their chance is to have more extreme on the outside. so they support not only hamas, but also the jihad. >> islamic jihad. >> islamic jihad in gaza. so the islamic jihad forces them also to be more extreme. one of the problems in gaza is there is nobody to really -- there is a competition among four or five different groups. the sell afterists and the jihad and many other groups and they're competing and iran is supplying arms to all of them. >> so who do you negotiate the cease-fire with? >> look, hamas has to take charge, otherwise they don't have a future. >> can they? >> i think yes. they don't have a choice. not only them, but the others, too. if hamas won't take a position, the people in gaza will say -- to those others, stop it. what are you doing to? there are people in gaza too. and none of us want to see them suffering. it doesn't give us any pleasure. >> we'll have more from wolf's interview with shimon peres in a little bit. among other things, peres has some advice for ev
>> iran is competing with egypt. they want to win. their chance is to have more extreme on the outside. so they support not only hamas, but also the jihad. >> islamic jihad. >> islamic jihad in gaza. so the islamic jihad forces them also to be more extreme. one of the problems in gaza is there is nobody to really -- there is a competition among four or five different groups. the sell afterists and the jihad and many other groups and they're competing and iran is supplying arms...
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and we hope to know what egypt's role looks like. we didn't know a week ago. >> it's been interesting to hear the israeli leadership praisy morsi. >> they've given him a huge amount of leeway, saying israel
and we hope to know what egypt's role looks like. we didn't know a week ago. >> it's been interesting to hear the israeli leadership praisy morsi. >> they've given him a huge amount of leeway, saying israel
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how is egypt calling the shots in terms of the way the palestinians are reacting? >> reporter: well, on the one hand, one needs to remember when it came to trying to mediate deals between these two sides, egypt has always played something of a pretty critical and central role. what has changed now is the dynamics between egypt and israel after the arab spring, and after the fact that hosni mubarak, who was a staunch ally of the west and is no longer in power. and now the egyptians became an entity because of the fact they are led by the muslim brotherhood, became an entity significantly closer to the hamas leadership here in gaza. that really changed a lot of the dynamics and the way we've been seeing things play out on the ground. the dynamics of what is transpiring that led to the cease-fire, we'll have to wait and see if it holds. that is what has changed, most certainly, egypt, given the fact it is a very young government, has at least for now proven itself. in one sense it has passed that critical test. >> arwa damon, thank you very much. here now with a view
how is egypt calling the shots in terms of the way the palestinians are reacting? >> reporter: well, on the one hand, one needs to remember when it came to trying to mediate deals between these two sides, egypt has always played something of a pretty critical and central role. what has changed now is the dynamics between egypt and israel after the arab spring, and after the fact that hosni mubarak, who was a staunch ally of the west and is no longer in power. and now the egyptians became...
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they told the "times of israel" that egypt can affect and lead the process of building democratic and constitutional regime that will become a dream for african and southern hemisphere. the group wants to make shariah law main source of the constitution. election is in the books but some d.c. voters might have mistakenly shown up to vote today. local media reports say tuesday morning nearly 2,000 district voters receive democratic robo calls telling them to vote tomorrow. as in wednesday. the democratic party says the foul-up happened because a vendor recycled a message from the day before. the party says the call was rerecorded and the entire list of 100,000 infrequent or new d.c. voters were recalled and urged to vote tuesday instead. >>> election day in america is viewed with considerable interest around the world. senior foreign affairs correspondent amy kellogg shows us from london. >> mr. speaker, the house will join me in congratulating president obama on the election victory. >> europeans overwhelmingly wanted to see president obama return to the white house. the special editi
they told the "times of israel" that egypt can affect and lead the process of building democratic and constitutional regime that will become a dream for african and southern hemisphere. the group wants to make shariah law main source of the constitution. election is in the books but some d.c. voters might have mistakenly shown up to vote today. local media reports say tuesday morning nearly 2,000 district voters receive democratic robo calls telling them to vote tomorrow. as in...
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as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak, very much aligned with u.s. and israeli interests. he was willing to turn a blind eye to israeli aggressions as they described it in gaza so long as he could secure the support of the u.s. and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily
as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak,...
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bringing the end to a crisis, a high stakes situation for egypt and the u.n. in fighting is the most intense the middle east has seen. jim frederick is joining us. as i mentioned, the latest development. the president, while he is in asia, making these important phone calls. obviously, wanting the same goal that everyone does at this point. >> yeah. i think the interesting thing so far is how removed the united states has been from the situation, from the negotiations going on in egypt and so people are starting to ask, is this a problem that the united states has to come in and solve? obama has hands-off. he's traveling throughout asia. the united states' voice here has been largely silent. i think part of that is purposeful, and i think part of that is leading from behind some of the strategies the united states has tried to pioneer over the past couple of years, and also i think it's a realization that the united states might not have as much leverage in the region or countries around the region it had a couple of years before the arab spring. >> isn't ther
bringing the end to a crisis, a high stakes situation for egypt and the u.n. in fighting is the most intense the middle east has seen. jim frederick is joining us. as i mentioned, the latest development. the president, while he is in asia, making these important phone calls. obviously, wanting the same goal that everyone does at this point. >> yeah. i think the interesting thing so far is how removed the united states has been from the situation, from the negotiations going on in egypt...
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we appreciate the constructive effort of egypt and constructive effort of the president of egypt. it was for us a pleasant surprise and i hope he will continue his task, which is necessary for all parts of the middle east. i must also say we are not surprised that iran is pushing the other direction. they are continuing to supply long-range missiles and urge hamas to fire them against cities and settlements in israel. >> listening to the israeli president shimon peres talking about the continues of the cease-fire saying that negotiations must continue, also talking about the rockets that have been launched into israel from gaza and saying that they need to talk, they need to put their weapons down. we also know that secretary of state hillary clinton is on her way to the region to meet with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. she goes on to me with the president of the palestinian authority mahmoud abbas, and finally on to cairo, meeting with the president of egypt all of them critical players in negotiating some sort of cease-fire and eventually the idea would be middle ea
we appreciate the constructive effort of egypt and constructive effort of the president of egypt. it was for us a pleasant surprise and i hope he will continue his task, which is necessary for all parts of the middle east. i must also say we are not surprised that iran is pushing the other direction. they are continuing to supply long-range missiles and urge hamas to fire them against cities and settlements in israel. >> listening to the israeli president shimon peres talking about the...
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. >> -- with the president of egypt. >> don't you? >> absolutely. >> last word, steve. how important -- >> let's be clear -- >> always had the deal between israel and egypt in the interest of both countries and our country. can we keep that deal? is there some architecture for peace there? >> we're going to try to keep that deal absolutely, but, remember, we're complicit in part of what happened. obama when he took george mitchell's resignation and basically moved dennis ross out of the white house, he doesn't put a new program on the table. and when america walks away from this peace process or an effort to bring the two sides together and really lay out a plan, violence kicks up. so we have a bit of complicity, and you are seeing right now not a strategic presidency from obama but a reactive presidency, and that doesn't bode well for this. >> do you agree with that? if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards on the peace treaty, the peace process? >> i think you plod forward or stay -- i'm not sure it's unraveling. i still think the amazing thing about all
. >> -- with the president of egypt. >> don't you? >> absolutely. >> last word, steve. how important -- >> let's be clear -- >> always had the deal between israel and egypt in the interest of both countries and our country. can we keep that deal? is there some architecture for peace there? >> we're going to try to keep that deal absolutely, but, remember, we're complicit in part of what happened. obama when he took george mitchell's resignation and...
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and i suspect the israelis are finding the new egypt very different than the old egypt. the old egypt did not see hamas as a brother in arms. they saw hamas as really a very different sort of arab cause. that's president mubarak. and now the president of egypt sees hamas as part of the larger muslim brotherhood movement. so israel didn't have anyone, probably, to talk to. and i suspect the united states was worried that this situation was going to possibly spin out of control. >> and obviously, since that meeting finished, the rockets, as he we said, the worst our reporters have seen. nick, where are we going from here? everyone is talking about a cease-fire. but yet when hillary clinton spoke about it, the united states spoke about it today, they didn't use that word. they used this word i did not understand called de-escalating. here is the secretary of state. >> america's commitment to israel's security is rock-solid. and unwavering. that is why we believe it is essential to deescalate the situation in gaza. >> nick, what does deescalate mean? is that diplomatic doubl
and i suspect the israelis are finding the new egypt very different than the old egypt. the old egypt did not see hamas as a brother in arms. they saw hamas as really a very different sort of arab cause. that's president mubarak. and now the president of egypt sees hamas as part of the larger muslim brotherhood movement. so israel didn't have anyone, probably, to talk to. and i suspect the united states was worried that this situation was going to possibly spin out of control. >> and...
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, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved diplomatically. they were pushing for the success of the diplomatic track while all the time preparing the military track at the same time in parallel in case the diplomacy didn't work. it seems to me particularly having told me earlier today, officials, that this was on hold, any kind of ground offensive to give diplomacy a chance to work, it seems that something must be coming to a head because secretary of state hillary clinton is on the way, as you say. she will be meeting. maybe there will be an announcement when she meets with prime minister netanyahu this evening here. >> it will be a late ni
, which are very significant because egypt is the lead, there is no one else, its egypt which is the lead with hamas. the u.s. is talking to the palestinians via egypt. obviously, israel is at the table with the egyptians. and we're hearing from the israelis as well that possibly they will be ready to announce some kind of cease-fire not far from now. that's consistent to what we have been hearing over the last several days. president netanyahu has said they would rather see this resolved...
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he's speaking with the leaders of egypt. he's hoping that the government of qatar, of turkey, all of whom have good relations with hamas in gaza, that they can convince hamas to stop the launching of these rockets and missiles into israel. if they stop the israelis will stop their strikes against them and then they can begin, hopefully down the road, to achieve some long range solution that's going to be very, very difficult, as all of us know. but the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu, convened his cabinet here in jerusalem today. he made it clear in a public statement that if the rockets keep coming in, the israelis have already stood on standby 75,000 ground forces, reservists, 30,000 of them already have been activated during training exercises not far from gaza. and they'll go in, as brutal and as ugly and as horrendous as that might be. they might go in. they don't want to do that because it will cause an enormous amount of pain all around and the israelis have had a relatively poor experience in gaza four y
he's speaking with the leaders of egypt. he's hoping that the government of qatar, of turkey, all of whom have good relations with hamas in gaza, that they can convince hamas to stop the launching of these rockets and missiles into israel. if they stop the israelis will stop their strikes against them and then they can begin, hopefully down the road, to achieve some long range solution that's going to be very, very difficult, as all of us know. but the prime minister of israel, benjamin...
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egypt's prime minister was meeting how mass is prime minister as well in gaza and they were touring around the territory they were inside the hospital visiting some of the wounded when apparently two fresh victims when reportedly a child of an israeli air strike were brought in whilst egypt's prime minister was there and he reportedly said that he described the situation in gaza as a disaster saying i simply cannot keep quiet israel must stop its aggression egypt really throwing its weight behind the gardens and how much they're saying you know it is it is israel that bears the burden for this escalation in aggression however rockets have also been for being fired out of out of gaza and territory hamas and other militants there as well and since this truce is supposed to have been observed there have been israelis having to take cover in southern israel as well so that can we say that there are some signs of a ground invasion getting closer than. they are indeed there are a number of factors that point to that thirty thousand israeli reservists are ready to be called up they've also
egypt's prime minister was meeting how mass is prime minister as well in gaza and they were touring around the territory they were inside the hospital visiting some of the wounded when apparently two fresh victims when reportedly a child of an israeli air strike were brought in whilst egypt's prime minister was there and he reportedly said that he described the situation in gaza as a disaster saying i simply cannot keep quiet israel must stop its aggression egypt really throwing its weight...
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>> i think egypt will look after its own interests, joe. because one thing the egyptians are very worried about the sina peninsula. it is a place for smugglers, terrorists, raiders, and it has a heavy -- so they must secure the sina peninsula, make sure they have american aid, and they must in the end try to be a broker between the isrealis and hamas, it's a game that egypt knows and one that egypt capitalizes on. >> how much do you think hamas won or gained in all of this? >> no, please, i'm a heretic on this one. i heard a lot of people say hamas gained, they had people came from all over the world -- the foreign minister of turkey came to gaza, et cetera et cetera. but when you look at the conditions, the economics, and the destruction of gaza, there is no gain there. it was said some years ago, six years ago, that hezbollah gained from it's war with israel, it did not, it brought destruction on to the people of south lebanon and the people of beroub beruit. >> always good to talk to you, thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you, jo
>> i think egypt will look after its own interests, joe. because one thing the egyptians are very worried about the sina peninsula. it is a place for smugglers, terrorists, raiders, and it has a heavy -- so they must secure the sina peninsula, make sure they have american aid, and they must in the end try to be a broker between the isrealis and hamas, it's a game that egypt knows and one that egypt capitalizes on. >> how much do you think hamas won or gained in all of this? >>...
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. >>> and egypt's president mohamed morsi met with top judges this morning. this as violent protests rage in the streets for a third day. is a compromise in the works to solve the political crisis? we have a live report coming up from cairo. >>> and online shopping records are expected to be broken this cyber monday. did you hear this? for the first time some consumers will feel the sting of the ee tax. which states and retails are now taxing online shoppers for the very first time. >>> and join our conversation at twitter. you can find us @tamron hall and @news nation. [ "odd couple" theme plays ] humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> welcome back. we're following developing news. the one-time prime minister and general abruptly quit this morning. he's
. >>> and egypt's president mohamed morsi met with top judges this morning. this as violent protests rage in the streets for a third day. is a compromise in the works to solve the political crisis? we have a live report coming up from cairo. >>> and online shopping records are expected to be broken this cyber monday. did you hear this? for the first time some consumers will feel the sting of the ee tax. which states and retails are now taxing online shoppers for the very first...
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>> you know, israel and egypt fought wars in the past. we fought bloody wars and people on both sides lost their lives in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and again in 1973. in the late 1970s we signed a peace treaty with israel that has brought peace to the border, and i think that's in the interests of both countries to keep that peace treaty. that's in the israeli interests and the egyptian interests. we have hamas that shares a common border with egypt and israel, and we think both sides have an interest to make sure that mass and the other extremists in gaza don't stir up trouble. don't cause friction. don't create violence. and i think we and the egyptians work together on keeping the peace and on trying to make sure the terrorists don't dictate the agenda. >> mark, suggestions that this past eight, nine days was a practice run, if you will, for any faw tour confrontation, testing, identifying hamas' capabilities, is that true enough? and if so, what did you learn? >> well, first of all, we know the rockets that were fired at tel aviv and jer
>> you know, israel and egypt fought wars in the past. we fought bloody wars and people on both sides lost their lives in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and again in 1973. in the late 1970s we signed a peace treaty with israel that has brought peace to the border, and i think that's in the interests of both countries to keep that peace treaty. that's in the israeli interests and the egyptian interests. we have hamas that shares a common border with egypt and israel, and we think both sides have...
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particularly, of course, egypt's role. with we started this more than a would being ago -- would president morsi be willing and able to do this kind of heavy lifting, and it seems that he has done, and you were talking about guaranteeing this cease-fire. that's something that israel really wanted to have a partnership around the cease-fire, to go into it not alone with hamas, but to go into it with guarantors. egypt will be and turkey and qatar and other regional players as well. >> this is suzanne. do you know what hamas has gotten out of this? what sense do they feel they are walking away from the table, what have they achieved here? >> well, spoik to him just before this was announced. however, what they want to achieve is a lifting of the siege. i don't think i heard anything about that this evening. that is going to be something that we'll see whether that comes along. you heard in some of hillary clinton's original statements when she was in jerusalem last night she talked about needing a secure israel and supporting
particularly, of course, egypt's role. with we started this more than a would being ago -- would president morsi be willing and able to do this kind of heavy lifting, and it seems that he has done, and you were talking about guaranteeing this cease-fire. that's something that israel really wanted to have a partnership around the cease-fire, to go into it not alone with hamas, but to go into it with guarantors. egypt will be and turkey and qatar and other regional players as well. >> this...
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both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the firing stops, the rockets stop. and, of course, there is no invasion or anything like that. so that's number one. but number two is the state department explains that it gives space, theoretically, at least, for some of those longer, maybe medium-term to longer issues, like the blockade of gaza, which the hamas definitely wants to stop. those issues might be able to be addressed. so there is kind of, you know, short-term, medium-term and long-term would be peace between israel and the palestinians, but that's very far away. but those are the immedi
both talk to egypt. egypt now is the middle man. is clinton -- what is secretary clinton hoping to achieve in her talks with morsi? right now, we're only dealing with the cease-fire, really no long-term solution. >> right. and that's a very good point. so what we're told here at the state department is she has the most immediate objective which is to try to facilitate and help in some fashion to bring about what the state department is calling deescalation. that is the fighting stops, the...